Comments on: If you’re pro-choice you can’t be Catholic? http://blackbirdwhistling.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/if-youre-pro-choice-you-cant-be-catholic/ The politics of equality, freedom, and human rights. Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:51:31 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Julie Ann Marra http://blackbirdwhistling.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/if-youre-pro-choice-you-cant-be-catholic/#comment-242 Julie Ann Marra Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:26:50 +0000 http://blackbirdwhistling.wordpress.com/?p=123#comment-242 Hi Father Cook, The image is from www.messagesfromgodthefather.com. Good luck with everything! Hi Father Cook,

The image is from http://www.messagesfromgodthefather.com. Good luck with everything!

]]> By: Fr. Rob Cook http://blackbirdwhistling.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/if-youre-pro-choice-you-cant-be-catholic/#comment-241 Fr. Rob Cook Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:00:37 +0000 http://blackbirdwhistling.wordpress.com/?p=123#comment-241 Hi. I would like to use the purple image of the chalice and host with the Last Supper behind it for a vocations poster. Do you know who the artist is or who I might need to contact about permission? Thank you! Hi. I would like to use the purple image of the chalice and host with the Last Supper behind it for a vocations poster. Do you know who the artist is or who I might need to contact about permission? Thank you!

]]> By: Mary http://blackbirdwhistling.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/if-youre-pro-choice-you-cant-be-catholic/#comment-240 Mary Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:10:23 +0000 http://blackbirdwhistling.wordpress.com/?p=123#comment-240 ^ What he said. He did his research! (Yes, I'm Catholic and pro-life! But I stumbled here by accident..) ^ What he said. He did his research! (Yes, I’m Catholic and pro-life! But I stumbled here by accident..)

]]> By: ejwilson http://blackbirdwhistling.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/if-youre-pro-choice-you-cant-be-catholic/#comment-165 ejwilson Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:04:31 +0000 http://blackbirdwhistling.wordpress.com/?p=123#comment-165 Cardinal Egan was very courageous and behaving as a bishop should when he rebuked Giuliani for presenting himself for communion at the Papal Mass. I can't possibly understand why an individual who disagrees with the doctrines of the Catholic Church would insist on remaining Catholic and seek to dilute the teachings. There are plenty of churches who don't uphold the culture of life by remaining silent on the issue of abortion and promoting artificial contraception. Catholics who are in a state of mortal sin (that is they are conscious of a serious sin yet have not availed themselves of the Sacrament of Penance) should not present themselves for communion. In fact, when they do so, they eat and drink to their own condemnation (cf. 1 Corinthians 11:27). Church law states that those who procure an abortion are excommunicated latae sententiae (automatically). Additionally, Canon 915 states that those "who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin (i.e. publicly and constantly flout Church teachings), are not to be admitted to holy communion." The individual responsible for enforcing this canon is the minister of holy communion, thus their is no need for a public excommunication in order for an obstinate sinner to be denied access to the Most Blessed Sacrament. Additionally, your comments about Church doctrines' lack of popularity amongst those who self-identify as Catholics suggest the Church should be flexible in order to make the Church more "relevant" and "acceptable." Indeed, this is the exact opposite of what the Church must and will do. It would be better that the Church consist of a small number of orthodox faithful instead of vast numbers of lukewarm Catholics. Cardinal Egan was very courageous and behaving as a bishop should when he rebuked Giuliani for presenting himself for communion at the Papal Mass. I can’t possibly understand why an individual who disagrees with the doctrines of the Catholic Church would insist on remaining Catholic and seek to dilute the teachings. There are plenty of churches who don’t uphold the culture of life by remaining silent on the issue of abortion and promoting artificial contraception.

Catholics who are in a state of mortal sin (that is they are conscious of a serious sin yet have not availed themselves of the Sacrament of Penance) should not present themselves for communion. In fact, when they do so, they eat and drink to their own condemnation (cf. 1 Corinthians 11:27).

Church law states that those who procure an abortion are excommunicated latae sententiae (automatically). Additionally, Canon 915 states that those “who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin (i.e. publicly and constantly flout Church teachings), are not to be admitted to holy communion.” The individual responsible for enforcing this canon is the minister of holy communion, thus their is no need for a public excommunication in order for an obstinate sinner to be denied access to the Most Blessed Sacrament.

Additionally, your comments about Church doctrines’ lack of popularity amongst those who self-identify as Catholics suggest the Church should be flexible in order to make the Church more “relevant” and “acceptable.” Indeed, this is the exact opposite of what the Church must and will do. It would be better that the Church consist of a small number of orthodox faithful instead of vast numbers of lukewarm Catholics.

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